JUT SUP 內宅
“THREE KINDS OF DISCIPLES”
A Zen master named Gettan lived in the latter part of the Tokugawa era. He used to say:
“There are three kinds of disciples: those who impart Zen to others, those who maintain the temples and shrines, and then there are the rice bags and the clothes-hangers.”
Gasan expressed the same idea. When he was studying under Tekisui, his teacher was very severe. Sometimes he even beat him. Other pupils would not stand this kind of teaching and quit. Gasan remained, saying:
“A poor disciple utilizes a teacher’s influence. A fair disciple admires a teacher’s kindness. A good disciple grows strong under a teacher’s discipline.”
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Beset with a thousand disquietudes,
I chanced upon an old woman fishing under the shady cool of creeping willows.
I wanted to ask her my thousand questions regarding the sun, moon and the creation of the universe and my purpose in life and oh so many more,
She placed her fingers on her lips: Fish are rising.
So I stood there and watched.
The freckled river shimmered with flashes of light like scales of an anaconda.
Clouds drift and tugged the blue horizon with their thick, silken strands;
Shadows of the willow grove deepened.
I felt my questions draining away.
Finally, as she slowly reeled in her line, I laughed as I saw that the line was without a hook.
How does one catch fish without a hook? I wondered.
As she turned to go, I know that tea is ready and I am invited.
Following behind her light, drifting footsteps, a gentle breeze combs through the willow branches,
I catch fragments of their whispering: A big one she caught.
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I am glad that I keep the truth out there.
I will not waver or compromise.
I will not water it down,
I will slow it down.
After all is said and done
Wing Chun is pounded down!
SiFu Doc Savage
Thank you to those who have reaffirmed your commitment to the preservation and teachings of
“SHADOWHAND” Wing Chun Fung Fu
To the ones that have responded, I have chosen wisely!
To the ones who have not responded, I have chosen poorly!
SIFU DOC SAVAGE
2011
Greetings to all!
I want to express my heartfelt thanks to all who attended the first annual “SHADOWHAND” Seminar and Retreat. I am grateful to each and every one of you for taking the time from your busy schedules to attend. I hope this experience brought you to a higher level of your training and a better understanding of Wing Chun. Special thanks go out to Bobby for allowing us the use of his home and for Bill for his great cooking! Thank you again for the wonderful weekend! I had a great time teaching you and look forward to the coming year to share even more with you.
SiFu Doc Savage
Sifu,
Thanks a lot. I really enjoyed the seminar, and I learned a lot. Once again, I learned as much about myself as I learned about Wing Chun.
Thank you SiFu for a great weekend and sharing your knowledge/experience to hear with us. It was a great learning experience with plenty of pounded down lessons. The fellowship made it that much more enjoyable and easier to learn. A big thank you to Bobby and his dad for provide us with some great food and a place to train. Hope well do it again next year.
A big thank you to SiFu Doc for an outstanding weekend of fun in the sun/moon! It was an action-packed weekend of non stop advanced Wing Chun. Thanks SiFu for sharing your knowledge with all of us. Also a big thanks and much appreciated goes out to Bobby and his dad Bill…great training location and the chow was top notch. I hope SiFu has more of these in the future.
I just wanted to say thanks to Sifu Doc for being so patient with all of us knuckle heads who continue to test the limits of your tolerance. It truly was an amazing weekend and I enjoyed all the fellowship and look forward to many more seminars like this.
I will! Soon!
Sifu,
Please explain the esoteric meaning of the wing chun poem for one and all…or all for one.
Thanks Justin. This Jut Sup page is meant to inspire and motivate all of us!
Each one of us takes away from the lessons what we need at that particular time.
And as you said time in the art and reflection and contemplation bring out the lessons of the drills.
Justin, keep on inspiring us to do better!
SiFu Doc Savage
I just wanted to add my two cents regarding SiFu Doc’s post #20 above:
The forms and drills as passed down to us from Doc are truly unique. By this I mean that Doc created drills that ‘feed’ two entirely different personalities. They provide a ‘short’ journey at face value for the folks who are drawn to the martial arts simply for the tactical edge it can provide. Then, contained inside the exact same ‘exoteric’ motions are more profound lessons to feed those of us who reflect and ponder…thus the drills are able to ‘feed’ us for a much longer journey. So, when Doc was asked that question at lunch “what to do when the time comes” etc…I encourage all of us not to look at that only in one way (tactical), but also strategically, and philosophically… The forms and drills can be both shallow and deep depending on how one chooses to perceive, filter, and process what Doc is passing down to us…
Again, just my two cents…
Doc,
I just wanted to send a note congratulating you on your recent induction into The Black. Dragon Fighting Society, it was an honor to attend the ceremony and to be your friend and disciple.
Soon!
All I want to know is when do I get the learn Black Dragon Kung Fu?????
At lunch one day I was asked; how does a person know what to do when the time comes to do it?
Well, the answer was simple. Practice! Practice what? The Forms, Drills and learn the lessons of the forms and the drills. Listen to your SiFu’s advice from his years of experience. About that time the local S.W.A.T. team came in and sat beside us and it came to me! When they train they shoot at stationary targets every time they go to the range, the target doesn’t hit back or shoot back. So, how do you practice to learn not to shoot the wrong people?
Answer: Hogan’s Alley. You know, this is where you move thru a range filled with different scenarios of possible attacks from an unknown opponent. Sometimes a bad guy pops up and sometimes a good guy pops up. Which one do you shoot which one do you not shoot? Here again the answer is Practice. Discernment in an instant, making a reflex move which you have trained and studied for that moment you need it. Life or Death in a flash.
So, when you practice your forms you are training in a similar way as target practice. When you practice the drills you are training Hogan’s Alley. So, by discernment you will be able to make the right move at the right time, guaranteed. There is more, but, this will do for now.
“Always be curious, knowledge will not acquire you; you must acquire it.” You must move beyond the brain. You must go to the source. You must work from the mind which is the energy consciousness – not your brain. It’s like a map. The better directions you have the less chance you will get lost and the more you can just enjoy the journey. “Author unknown”
My goal is to pass my art to ART LOVERS not ART CRITICS.
STUDY, SEARCH and TEST since 1976.
I have always taught my students to always Fight for Your Life, in any and everything they do. If you are caught off guard and overwhelmed, find strength in knowing that there is always another move, always something you can do.
When your life is on the line, you have no choice but to make the tough decisions. Whether it’s a split second decisions based on reflexes and instinct, or a calculated and analyzed decision,
Fight without an Ego, and do what it takes to get the job done so that it is you, who is able to go home to your loved ones.
Once you have your head on your shoulders, Know Your Art— be it Wing Chun or any other style.
It’s the mind, not the moves.
When you find this out for yourself, then you know WING CHUN. SiFu Savage
Thank you all that attended the ceremony last night. I thank Master Lawrence Day for the honor of being inducted into the Black Dragon Fighting Society and being recognized as a Shaolin Temple Disciple and Fighting Monk. I will continue to uphold our standards and principles and never waver in the face of adversity.
SiFu Doc Savage
“Common sense” It seems like that thought has left the vocabulary in Wing Chun. Some people have lost their way. It is up to us to perpetuate the art with honor and integrity. Not only to be a guide but lead by example. In order for other people to have any respect for us as teachers and students we must hold ourselves to a higher standard and not bow down to pressure from others who say we are not the source.
“Source” meaning doing Wing Chun following the principles set for the by our ancestors in the style. Not someone who comes out with a work book or you tube video that. To look at what’s going on and analyze and discuss techniques as valid or invalid.
Thank you Justin for taking the time with your students and helping them to appreciate the art and having a “SiFu” that wants to pass on the art as it should be.
SiFu Doc
Just finished a private lesson with one of my students. He requested a private so I could teach him something he saw on a youtube video. SiFu Doc’s teachings provided me with the ability to not only show him the drills from the youtube video with ease, but also the “how and why” the drills are not optimal, based on WC principle and theory. I taught him the drills per the youtube Sifu…then tore the drills apart and showed him why the drills may look nice and sexy but are really only one-sided. Then I modified the drills and injected some “ShadowHand common sense” into them so my student could see and feel and understand the difference! Very cool! Thank you SiFu Doc for passing on to us your deep knowledge of this amazing system!
Bravo!!! 🙂
Thank you SiFu! Looking forward to the December event!
Great Weekend….Thanks to all who made that happen!
Thanks Justin for your continued support and dedication to the art! You inspire us all!
The December seminar will be a great learning experience to all that will attend!
Thanks to all my students for helping me want to continue to teach the art which I love so dearly.
SiFu Doc
BRAVO!
@SiFu Doc Savage
@SiFu Doc Savage
Physically, as well as mentally…!!!! 🙂
Well then…I think chapter II verse 6 speaks to our Sil Lum Tao form (i.e. first we wait).
I also think one could read that verse and ponder their own SiFu. For example, when I read that verse it reminds me of a line out of Remo Williams movie when the master says “the fool chatters whilst the wise man listens”. A good SiFu can instruct an observant student through his silence, through his non-action, his action, and/or his words alone. For example, I have learned much from watching you perform WC and yet have also learned just as much from your silence. Here is another example: the forms of WC…they don’t speak to us of ‘words’ (i.e. complete fighting techniques) but of concepts and ideas; and so by diligent practice one can be ‘taught’ by these alphabetical Masters. In time, us students can learn to form our words and thus be able to ‘speak’.
Again, just my two cents.
Yes, oh observant one! It should be “No Action” I will make the change ;o)
You are on the right track with the rest. See you Thurs. Bring your books!
Thank you.
SiFu, I must have a different Tao Te Ching book from DC Lau because Chapter II Verse 6 in my book doesn’t mention anything about “Breath”(?). Here is what my book states for that chapter and verse: “Therefore the sage keeps to the deed that consists in taking no action and practices the teaching that uses no words.” Is my version of the book F’d up or…?
As for Chapter XVI verse 37: one interpretation (i.e. my own thoughts on this) could be that one could infer references to the main stance/horse of WC. One may also infer that the “myriad creatures” could be distractions along the path of WC. In broader terms: perhaps the verse speaks about how things originate from the center, move outwards in various forms, and yet in the end all must come back to the center?
As for Chapter XXXI verse 72: I think this is basically speaking about the three principles of WC, and also having no ego.
I think Chapter L verse 113 is speaking of the principles of cover; and also of S.A.D.
Again, I could be WAY OFF BASE here but figured I’d post my measly two cents. 🙂
SHADOWHAND WING CHUN FUN FU
REQUIRED READING LIST
Lesson One
Discussion on at our next meeting; how this applies to Wing Chun Kung Fu
*Dao of Tai Chi Chun by Jou Tsung Hwa
Chapter 1-2 Yin/Yang and Tai Chi
*Tao Te Ching by D.C. Lau
Chapter II; verse 6 “No Action”
Chapter XVI; verse 37“Stillness”
Chapter XXXI; verse 72 “Knowing”
Chapter L; verse 113 “I have heard”
*Sun Tzu” The Art of War” by Samuel B. Griffith
Chapter I-Estimates; verse 12-17-22-23-24-25-26
Chapter 3-Offensive Strategy; verse 4-14-16-25-28-31032-33
Yeah great Forum!!!! maybe setup a forum for the public as well? Just a thought. Oh and the most recent should go at the top. XD
SiFu the web site is great just like the Wing Chun u teach .It has been an honor to be your Disciple and continue to learn from you. No one could ask for a better teacher .
WHEN confronted with a problem involving the use of the reasoning faculties, individuals of strong intellect keep their poise, and seek to reach a solution by obtaining facts bearing upon the question. Those of immature mentality, on the other hand, when similarly confronted, are overwhelmed. While the former may be qualified to solve the riddle of their own destiny, the latter must be led like a flock of sheep and taught in simple language. They depend almost entirely upon the ministrations of the shepherd. The Apostle Paul said that these little ones must be fed with milk, but that meat is the food of strong men. Thoughtlessness is almost synonymous with childishness, while thoughtfulness is symbolic of maturity. Quote unknown
Milk before Meat!
One day you will ask yourself; Do I really know what I am doing?
Have I really learned the truth?
Answer; Test yourself, then you will know.
Only when you are not using force,
Will you know how much force your opponant is using.