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8-10 Dec Seminar at Liza Jackson Park, FWB

October 10th, 2017 No comments

Seminar will be held from 8-10 Dec at Liza Jackson Park in FWB.    Contact SiFu Doc savage if interested.  

20-21 Feb 2016 Wooden Man Seminar

February 19th, 2016 No comments

FL WING CHUN WOODEN MAN SEMINAR FEB 20-21 2016IMG_6147

21-23 Aug 2015 Shadow Seminar Completed

August 27th, 2015 No comments

Florida Wing Chun”

“Thanks SiFu for all the information that you transmitted in words & more so deeds. I felt those pinning legs & “trapping” feet – I know you!!!

Tip of the hat to all my Shadowhand dudes that made the scene, good times had by all. Looking toward attaining new heights in my WC & the next seminar.

Echoing the words of appreciation for the use of the property – thanks Bobby! Your place is a perfect, distraction-free environment to get down to WC business.

ONWARD & UPWARD!”  -EZ

“Thanks again to my Sifu Doug , for pounding everything down and telling us time and time again to ” Go to the source”. Its the way it was pounded down to him and I’m forever grateful for this pounding. Without that I would not have had the opportunity to experience the same (kinda) pounding he got. Thank you Doc.” -Todd

“…I would simply say, that I count myself fortunate that In these last few days, I have dwelt with family and I have beheld the hearts of lions…in these last few days I have experienced self discovery and the lion within, and in these last few days I have witnessed Honor, Humility, Humor, Authenticity and Mastery, I have witnessed Shadowhand… I have stood IN THE PRESENCE OF… SAO YIN.” -Steve

“Recently I was asked why I still choose to continue to learn from Sifu Doc, since in their opinion it will be very unlikely that anyone will ever mess with me and if they did I will most likely seriously injure any attacker. My response was,” every time I train with Doc, my Wing Chun brothers, or someone wanting to try there stuff against me, I learn more from those experiences. This past weekend proves that statement, I learned so much from everyone there and from Sifu Doc’s insight that there is no way I could progress without that experience. Anyone who thinks they can learn all they need in just a few short years and then be able to fill in the gaps themselves is in for a rude awakening, perhaps like someone putting them in a rear naked choke hold in front of an entire class and not be able to get out of it.” -Bobby

“Thanks to Doc for a great weekend. As always, learned a lot, refreshed a lot, and got to spend the hours with quality like-minded individuals on the same journey.  Thanks to Bobby for the use of the training location (and range!)…” -Justin

“Thanks, SiGung, for yet another excellent seminar! I greatly appreciate the Q&A time, the corrections in how I perform the Forms and drills, and the bits of information that can be missed if we’re not paying close attention (i.e. the “toys” that have been finding their way out of the attic). I feel very fortunate to be a part of the Shadowhand family. It’s been just over a year since receiving my “emancipation papers” from the plantation, and I feel like my training since then has taken quantum leaps forward, even though I know there is still so much more to learn! It’s nice to have a teacher who doesn’t teach with the emergency brake on (one who doesn’t brag to others about holding back or keeping students “one degree off”). Looking through my notebook and comparing it to the outline in the instructor’s manual and the Power, Speed, and Flexibility manual, I can say one thing for sure: you have taught me a LOT of Wing Chun! Thank you again for accepting me. I’m eternally grateful to have YOU as my Source.  Bobby, Justin, Enero, et al.: It’s always a pleasure to train and fellowship with you. Your insights and pointers are invaluable to me, and I greatly appreciate you for the roles you all have played in my journey! Thank you!  Steve, my brother, you are an inspiration, and I always look forward to seeing you! Looking forward to next time!” -Ed

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22 Aug 2015 Holt FL Completed

 

 

13-14 June Seminar

June 6th, 2015 No comments

FLORIDA WING CHUN

“All material contained in seminars is copyrighted and cannot be used without expressed permission from SiFu Doc Savage.  Any violation will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. ” 

“Thanks again to everyone who attended this seminar!!! Special thanks to SiFu Beck and his Father for extending their hospitality and the great food Bill and Bobby provided for us.
These seminars are intended to advance the student to a level above the one they came with. The level they achieve depends on:
1. Not to let your preconceived ideas stop you from moving beyond this sticking point.
2. Ask copious questions of the facilitator, regardless of whether you think the question is “stupid” or not. You are here to “learn”. I am here to “teach”. I will hold nothing back. Or teach you 1’ off, ever!!!
3. Practice your forms at your level of training. Ask Me for corrections and the ways to improve on them.
4. Turn your horse 100 x’s a day. Lon Sao Di-Gon Sao and Quan Sao!
5. Practice moving around the sticks 30 minutes a day. Footwork is the key to “Shadowhand” Kung Fu.
6. The seminar doesn’t stop at 4 pm. We just take a break for food and rest. We go on till we get sleepy!
So, now you know what to do for and at the next seminar.
Good Luck!!!”
See you then, SiFu Doc Savage

“Another amazing seminar! Thank you again SiGung.. Doc, for sharing your knowledge and all the many needed corrections I received. I especially enjoyed the “Ask me anything” moments, regarding ‘any’ movement in any of the forms. They were awesome to be part of and watch, as we saw Doc begin at one point, and it often lead to a variety of applications. I’ll need more pages for all the extras that were covered in Chum Kil [many notes: lol]
Getting tweaked in 4 punch 102 as well as tweaking our structure and pressure in the Donchi sau drills were again, awesome.. as we then incorporated that knowledge into our rolling and lop drill.. into the lockout. NICE! O, and thanks again for that manual, Doc.
I appreciate the tips on the Wooden man, Doc, and I’m still transferring notes on those facial pressure points and the one on the leg, for the sneaky kick.
A big ‘Thank You’ to Bobby for a place to train and his folks for rustling up the chow. Thanks to all the ‘gang’, for helping the ‘old guy’ get it down, [cant wait to see you when you’re on Medicare lol] and meeting a couple more of my SiHing’s.
A special thanks to the guy in the corset, for his guidance and supplemental written material. Hope you’re up and running at the next one, SiFu.
You move, I move; You change, I change; You stop, I keep going. – SHADOWHAND – Hell yea!” – Philip

“Many many thanks to SiGong Doc, Sifu Bobby and his dad for the food and hospitality, E, as always, training with you is an adventure :), Adam was great seeing you again, Sifu Justin, best wishes on the rib may your days be pain free in the coming weeks.
Venturing down the rabbit hole with you guys is, as always, a mind blowing experience. A very valuable one. Knowledge that cannot be gained anywhere else.
Now, I have a idea of what questions to ask–finally. (I’m old and slow, but I’m getting there
Persevere, train, persevere more, train more.
Looking forward to the next one, definitely” – Captain J

“Thank you Sigung Doc for allowing me to participate in this past seminar! It was probably the most amazing thing I’ve ever experienced. It was nothing like I expected but everything I hoped It would be. I will retained what I’ve learned and practice diligently and prove that the knowledge bestowed upon me will not be in vain. My motivation has skyrocketed! Your teachings have really inspired me. After meeting your disciples and the rest of the Shadowhand family I know this is where I want to be, this is what I want to do! I look forward to your next seminar! Thank you again Sigung Doc for the opportunity to participate and for the wisdom you’ve opened my mind to! Thank you Sifu Jay for extending Sigung Docs invitation to me and for your training! Thank you Enero for the subtleties and nuances and insight, Sifu Bobby for the one on one your technique is truly magnificent,Sifu Ed,Sifu Adam,Sifu Steve,Sifu Justin all the disciples and Sifus. Y’all are a terrific group of guys and I can comfortably wear my colors with pride! Thanks again for Sigung Doc this has truly been a life changing event for me!” – Mark

“Seminar was great. Direct all questions to Sifu Doc Savage, he’s the one with the goods.” – Aiden

“Thanks Doc for the overload. I haven’t gotten past going over the forms etc. since Sunday . Daily forms with a few drills thrown in are the best right after a seminar. Thanks to everyone for the great lessons and great pounding. Looking forward to the next one.” – Todd

“Thank you SiGong Doc for a great Seminar! It is absolutely amazing to observe and learn as you harmonize any selected movement to it’s place in the forms! My understanding grows exponentially in just a very short time at each seminar I attend!  Thank you to Bobby for the hospitality to both me and Spanky!  To Justin, Enero, Ed, Jay, Aiden and all my Shadowhand Brothers, it was awesome seeing everyone again, and meeting new faces as well!  I had a really awesome time and look forward to the next time!” – Steve

“First, thank you SiGong Doc Savage for overloading my feeble mind with just how much there is behind every single movement we make in the forms and drills and how they ALL connect. It is humbling and eye-opening to see just how much I have yet to learn. Knowing that is one thing, experiencing it firsthand is so much more meaningful. I am grateful for your generous sharing of the art of Wing Chun!  Next, thank you to Bobby and his family for their generous hospitality. The food and lodging was excellent and made the trip possible for many of us. I also appreciate the headache you gave me as a bonus!  Finally, it was great to meet all of my other brothers who were there. I got so much training with everyone. Thank you all for your patience, training and corrections. You guys are the best!  I am certainly looking forward to the next time I can make the trip!” – Jeremy

“Thank you SiFu Doc for another great seminar. Very informative. I have much to learn and work on. Enjoyed working out with everyone and meeting some new folks. Ez E always a pleasure. Ed, your welcome! Lol! Justin, I hope you have a speedy recovery. Big thanks to Bobby and his parents for the great hospitality. Looking forwarded to the next one.” –Adam

“Thank you again, SiGong, for yet another excellent seminar! While I’m always glad to learn directly from you, I was especially happy that others from Memphis got to see you, hear some funny stories, and receive corrections in their Wing Chun. I can’t say “Thank you” enough for accepting us and freely teaching the Art that was taught to you. It’s one thing to hear a man *tell* you the correct application, but you go much further and *show* the “what, why, and how” of everything we do. You always embody the statement, “The proof is in the punch.” Again, thank you.  Bobby, thank you for the lodging and vittles. I always appreciate your input and pointers in helping us. Justin (aka McRib lol), even though we didn’t get to work together, it was a pleasure seeing you and getting your input and help. Eazy E-nero, you the training, dialogue, and advice are more than appreciated. You’re gonna have to let me see your notes some time! Todd, Scott, Phil, Capt. J (good job with your new student!), it was a blast! Adam, thank you for the headaches! Lol Steve, my Wilted Rose brother. I was so happy to see you and train with you! I’m grateful that we are on this path. Others can say whatever they want, but you and I know the TRUTH.  Again, thanks, SiGong. I have much to study, search, and test.” – Ed Holt

“Thanks to Doc for another great weekend of training. Always enlightening. Always so much more to learn. Quite humbling.
Good to see the Shadowhand crew from all corners come out for some solid brain expanding wing chun. As always, thanks to Bobby for the use of his home, and thanks to Bill for the burgers.  See you at the next one.” – Justin

“SiFu Doc Savage, thanks again for another top quality seminar! Always informative, challenging, frustrating, & above all fun. Getting into the finer points of Shadowhand WC motivates me to turn the microscope on & take a deeper look at the forms. Something that you always say to do in the first place. I am shown new things at every seminar & this one was no exception. On this journey up the WC mountain people & things help you along the way; to that end “Thanks” everybody that came to train. Training with you was great & even the new guys brought some heat – great questions & energy. Good to see everybody, the usual offenders, the new faces (Mark & Jeremy) & my old classmate Adam (glad you could make it.) As most of the attendees are getting after it on the highways, drive safe & see you in a while.
Lay off the McRibs!” – EZ Enero

13 June 2015 Holt Pic Wing Chun

 

13 June 2015 Holt FL Completed

18 Apr 15 Knife Fighting Seminar

April 2nd, 2015 No comments

Florida Wing Chun

SiFu Doc Savage held a  knife fighting seminar at Liza Jackson Park on Sat, 18 Apr 2015.

“Hey, Doc,

Just wanted to thank you for such a great seminar. As usual you’ve given me so much detailed information, easily understood and readily usable. Your patience and ability to explain the topic at hand gives me the tools to problem solve where most of my questions I end up answering myself. I’ve never been to any of your seminars where one person left with an unanswered question. With even such little exposure to the info and a small amount of practiced you know one can only do so much in an eight hour day. I walked away with the confidence that I am better off now at either end of the blade, and that’s saying a lot because blades can be scary, especially to the novice. Please thank everyone: Bobby, Enero, Aiden. Hopefully JC will make the next one. Thank you very much!” –Patrick Kelly Fox

“With the sun just coming up and features hidden, I could only make out dark figures.. but even at a 100 yards I could still recognize the big, stocky man with the ponytail as my Sigung.. the one and only Doc Savage!
Now when I first heard Doc was going to do a seminar on knives.. KNIVES.. I really cant describe my excitement. Why? To set the stage, a person writing a book on the history of Wing Chun, and has done MUCH research on the different Ip/WC lineages, discovered that THE most aggressive and proficient student of Ip Man was a private student, Leung Shiu Hung.  This same student was mesmerized with learning Ba Zam Do, or WC knives. He discovered the exact blade placement for.. ‘quick kills’.. through it’s application on wild packs of dogs, as well as a few encounters with armed robbers.  This helps one to appreciate why over the years, S.E.A.L. Teams, FBI, etc., understood that Leung Shiu Hung, [OR American], DUNCAN Leung, with a blade, was the most dangerous man alive!  Ask yourself.. WHY else dedicate the training of these agents and their lives.. to Duncan.. for decades?  This ‘deeper’ knowledge of knives by Duncan, was passed on to Doc.. which HE is now sharing with US??  Now then.. do you realize that as I walk toward the pavilion, it ‘overwhelms me’ that I am about to be taught knife defense by the man knife experts consider one of the top two IN THE WORLD?  That being said,  Although I am very new to Shadowhand WC [less than a year] and this was only my second seminar.. as I am walking and get closer to the pavilion, it felt great to walk up and see my brothers . Ed.. I would like to talk more on the 7 stars. Enero, don’t know why you doubt yourself bro.. you truly have the gift!  I feel when you see me you must think.. DOH.. here’s that new guy. But if you do you hide it well. lol  Seriously, thank you for your patience, realizing what I’m doing wrong, [HUGE as a Sifu] and taking time to correct me. Thank you!  Bobby, wished I had more time to train with you [and get that mayo recipe].  It was great meeting and training with the rest of you! Doc.. Sigung.. THANK YOU for passing this on to us!  I’ve been in MA for decades and have seen politics and ego. Yet with you, in the morning after my 3rd question, YOU then approached ME all seminar, and like a kid on ADD and chomping at the bit, asked if I had any questions for you [which I did] and you freely, and eagerly answered.  Where the hell were you 20-30 years ago?? lolJust wish Sifu Corey could have made it.”  –Philip

“Once again Sifu Doc Savage proves he is one of the greatest martial arts instructors in the world !!! I am proud to call Sifu Doc my friend and teacher. Thank you Doc for such a great seminar!!! And thank you to all who attended , the willingness to train and help each other was outstanding. The knowledge that was shared and friendships made can only come from a group of individuals united in a common goal. The goal was to learn from the best and that we did. Special thanks to Bobby for being so helpful and sharing with his knowledge. I hope to train again with everyone soon.”  –Curtis Porter

“Yet another awesome seminar, training DOC SAVAGE Wing Chun. There is no price tag that can be placed on the opportunity to learn directly from The SOURCE. Thank you, SiGung, for your openness and enthusiasm; the experience is truly a blast, all pain aside! LOL :) Even the few moments during the break, where you helped me improve my elbow pressure, were more than worth making the trip. In just 10 months with you, I have nearly filled my notebook that I bought four years ago, and I know that its contents only scratch the surface of what you have to offer those dedicated to learning!  Bobby, Enero, and others: Thank you for your input, suggestions, insights, and fellowship. Training with you brothers makes the pain fun, humorous, and enlightening. I always look forward to seeing you whenever I’m in town! Shadowhand. F@%*$ YEAH!  SiGung, thanks again for welcoming us and for ever reminding us to “Learn the lessons of the drills” and “Keep It Simple, Stupid.” – Ed Holt

“As always it was an incredible and eye opening seminar. After all this time Doc still has so much to teach it is mind boggling, as the saying goes,” the more I learn the less I know.”
It was great to train with all my Kung fu brothers and the dedication you show is inspiring, I look forward to our next encounter. Remember when your ego does not get in the way of your training there are no limits to what can be learned.” –Bobby

” Thanks to all who attended!
Thank you for your time and effort!
Thank you for working so hard!
Thanks for everything! You are the best of the best!!!”
SiFu Savage

 

SHADOWHAND Knife Fighting Seminar

18 Apr 2015 Knife Fighting Completed

“All material contained in seminars is copyrighted and cannot be used without expressed permission from SiFu Doc Savage.  Any violation will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. ” 

31May-1June Panama City FL Seminar Completed

April 15th, 2014 No comments

Panama City, FL Seminar

SiFu Doc Savage conducted an all day  seminar on Chi Sao Saturday 31 May and another seminar on the Wooden Man on 1 June 2014.  Private training /recertification was conducted on Friday for Disciples. This fulfilled the last seminar in Panama City, FL. SiFu Doug will be traveling in search of knowledge!  We wish him the best in his travels and he will be missed.  Shadowhand welcomes Doug’s students to come train in Fort Walton Beach and as SiFu says the door is always open, no appointments are necessary.

“You can’t learn to fight from a flower.”  JC

“My deepest thanks to all who attended the seminar! As always thanks to SiFu Doug for his hospitality! Even though he is leaving us to explore the west he will be back in Oct. to share the stories of his adventures! My Best to Doug in all endeavors. My best to all! “-  SiFu Doc Savage

“Wow…what an awesome weekend of jaw-dropping Shadowhand Wing Chun! Chi sao and Wooden Man and into the rabbit hole we go!
A big thanks to SiFu Doc Savage for all the esoteric tidbits and also the opportunity to get together with the Shadowhand folks once again. It was great to train with everyone. Looking forward to the next one!
Many thanks to SiFu Doug for his hospitality. And to SiFu Bobby for locking hands with me. ” – Justin Corey

“I would like to thank everyone who attended the final Panama City seminar and hope they enjoyed it ! As always SiFu showed us why Shadowhand Rules !” – Doug Hindman

I just got home about an hour ago…and I have spent the entire afternoon both amazed at how much Wing Chun one could possibly learn in such a short amount of time! I am so grateful to Doc Savage and to EVERYONE ONE of you guys! Before I left Waco I asked myself…
“What does it mean to IMPART ZEN TO OTHERS?” IT’s easy to stick yourself on a pedestal, pin a white flower on your chest and puff yourself up by dropping names in front of everyone. In My opinion, people who feel the need to drop the names of others consistently are simply NO SECURE with their own name having ANY TRUE VALUE on it’s own merit. So if this what a poor disciple does…it’s easy enough to understand.

Admiring the kindness of others is a good thing….people do not admire what they do not value.

But it is a much better thing to EXUDE KINDNESS from yourself and to show it to others.

I am not sure if this is what is meant by “IMPARTING ZEN”…but if it is…well, each and everyone of the various Sifu’s from the varied Shadowhand schools I met, and as well their students, all do credit to SiFu Doc Savage, and show that irregardless of what level of Martial Skill they have…they have learned and mastered the LIFE SKILL of kindness by the Example of Doc Savage.

I enjoyed meeting each and everyone of you!

Now, if Imparting ZEN however is something more along the lines of EMPOWERING OTHERS…knowing when to say…”Yeah, but you still SHINE!” at just the right moment…or giving 100% patience…meeting each person on their own level, and not settling on leaving it all up to the student to have to understand the way things are taught, but seeking out how the student learns until it is found and meeting them at that level to INSURE the LESSON is BOTH PASSED and RECEIVED…TO INSURE THE SUCCESS of students…then there again, by my witness of both SiFu Doc Savage and all whom he had help work with myself and others…I witnessed that not only did DOC and all Shadowhand school instructors SET A VERY HIGH BAR to be reached…but that they did not set the same bar, without also supplying the ladder and saying as needed…”CLIMB HERE!”

On so multiple levels, I witnessed so many examples I wish not just to admire, not to emulate…rather to insure to incorporate into my own walk…and to pay forward into the lives of others, to teach with passion, to greet with kindness, strive in company with Humor, to GIVE without expectation of return…and to seek personal growth, exemplifying the path to Mastery is not to seek MASTERY…rather simply “TO SEEK”…to continually focus on learning, exploring…

Thank you, thank you all! And most of all I wish to Thank you Doc! I had such a blast and I learned so much!” – Steve Crider

“SiFu Savage, thanks for letting us in on the “secret sinking” Lop Sao…never noticed that before, or at least it never registered. Take the high ground; send it down. GOT IT! Is there no end to PAP? (I know the answer to that.) As always the seminars were packed with information & clarifications. I am enjoying the journey in spite of the fact that the destination does not look all that near.
Doing the MYJ form & watching others work through it helped to highlight the finer points. Thanks to those that attended; I learned something from each of you. That was one hell of a send off for our WC brother Doug. Happy Trails & hopefully we’ll see you down the line. In the meantime keep driving!” – Enero (EZ)

“Sifu, great seminar this weekend! I really enjoyed it and learned a lot about chisao, the wooden MAN, and wing chun physics and philosophy. Your teaching and guidance truly brought the concepts and techniques to life, which demonstrates the significance of a student finding a QUALIFIED instructor to pass down the knowledge, wisdom, and understanding of the art. Thank you all you have given and shared.
-Fred (FYUF)

 

8 Mar 2014 Panama City Seminar

March 12th, 2014 No comments

Panama City,  Florida Wing Chun Seminar

SiFu Robert “Doc” Savage conducted a seminar on 8 March, 2014 at the Panama City, FL SHADOWHAND Wing Chun school providing instruction on defense techniques against the so called “Knock Out Game” that many citizens have fallen victim to.

SEMINAR 23-24 FEB 2013 PANAMA CITY, FL COMPLETE!

February 3rd, 2013 No comments

SHADOWHAND WING CHUN, FL  SEMINAR

This Wing Chun Seminar was hosted at the SHADOWHAND extension school located in Panama City, FL.

“The recent seminar this past weekend was amazing. SiFu Doc yet again gives literal meaning to the term “everlasting spring”. From fighting, sparring, chi sau, philosophy, power training, kicking, wooden man, etc etc…it was non-stop the entire weekend. The Wing Chun world is lucky to have someone of Doc’s caliber. His knowledge and experience is boundless. Thanks to SiFu Doc and SiFu Doug for an outstanding weekend of quantum level training!!!!!!!!!! “

– SiFu Justin Corey

Still sore and nursing bruises from this past weekend’s seminar.  You know the saying “Fire forges Steel”?   That’s how I would describe the training.  I learned so much from the intensity and reality-based nature of Saturday’s class.   Indeed, wing chun is pounded down and not passed down!  But it just wasn’t the physical and technical aspects that had me impressed.  SiFu shared a good amount of philosophy and history to round out our knowledge.   Sunday was great as well – just hanging with SiFu and the disciples.  More technical training, lots of Q&A, and just all around camaraderie.   Thank you SiFu, for all that you taught and shared with us, and thank you disciples and fellow classmates as well for helping me in my wing chun path.  Looking forward to the next seminar!”

Rene

“The recent seminar in Panama City was incredible. I would like to thank Sifu Doc for his dedication and patience I would also like to thank my Wing Chun brothers who attended the seminar and made the training realistic. You never know what you really learn until you are tested, thanks for the test.”

-Bobby

 (Left to Right):  Rene, SiFu Doug Hindman, Certified Instructor Adam Rose, SiFu Doc Savage, SiFu Justin Corey, SiFu Bobby Beck and Hans

 

Duncan Leung with tripodal configuration in the background.

“…just when you thought you knew all there is to the tripodal – OOPS!”
Have a great Wing Chun Day!
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PANAMA CITY SCHOOL – OPEN HOUSE COMPLETE!

September 17th, 2012 No comments

“Great job SiFu Doug! The school is beautiful! Thanks to all that attended, the food was excellent and the drinks were …well as they say…A grand time was had by all!

Thanks SiFu Doug! “

-SiFu Doc Savage

 

“Congratulations to SiFu Doc on the recent Kwoon dedication. And many thanks to SiFu Doug, who crafted an awesome school! Job well done!”

– SiFu Justin Cory

 

 

 

Panama City Wing Chun

July 12th, 2012 No comments

“PANAMA CITY, FL WING CHUN”

SiFu Doug Hindman has been training with SiFu Robert “Doc” Savage since 1997.  In 2001 he became a Disciple and continues to train privately with SiFu Savage.  SiFu Doug Hindman is currently teaching Panama City Wing Chun as an extension school of SHADOWHAND Wing Chun Kung Fu.

SiFu Hindman teaches the merciless art of wing chun as has been passed down to him.  This is a continual journey that requires dedication and perseverance if one is to excel and come close to mastering this style which knows no rules and no bounds.

For more information contact SiFu Doug Hindman at hindmandoug@yahoo.com